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In the US you have the Department of Homeland Security, issuing official threat level advisories.

In European countries we have Ministries of Truth, issuing status reports about their progress in achieving total thought control through censorship.

Created by blogger Dog of Flanders.

published on Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 00:19 CET - Share on Facebook

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Nicolas Raemdonck

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 00:31 CET - #23537

Jeezes, this is ridiculous

dof

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 00:53 CET - #23541

Why, that hurts.

luc

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 01:14 CET - #23543

@Nicolas: I guess you will only start worrying when opinions YOU care about are banned by the state?

I started worrying as soon as ANY opinion was banned by the state.

Cogito

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 10:06 CET - #23547

I think there is a bad translation in this: Our word for Nationalism must be translated by Patriotism in English. The term Nationalism truly means fascism to english speaking people.

Cogito

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 10:07 CET - #23548

re-reading I think it fits in the row however of false accusations.

Cogito

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 10:09 CET - #23549

Continuing the row of false accusations you could add a line at the left calling the Palestinians "freedom fighters".

Rudi

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 11:53 CET - #23552

Great en unfortunately very real!

dof

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 12:24 CET - #23553

@Rudi:

By the time you have arrived at an amazon page, your url will contain all kinds of crap you have to prune manually.

So use

http://www.amazon.com/gp/pr...

luc

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 12:31 CET - #23554

Here are the best Amazon links to Bat Ye'ors "Eurabia":

If you live in Europe, order at Amazon UK, so you won't have to pay import duties or fill in complex customs forms:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exe...

Elsewhere, order at Amazon USA:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/...

Nicolas Raemdonck

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 12:34 CET - #23555

Dear Luc, I have the same concern about the fact that opinions (that are not my own) are being forbidden but this way of showing this concern with childlish drawings is ridiculous. It makes your self a laughing stock with those who want to abolish free speech. The will have the opportunity to put you in the cornor of some kind of right-wing extremist.

dof

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 12:56 CET - #23556

"the opportunity to put you in the cornor of some kind of right-wing extremist."

So what are you saying?

That I should add an extra "Guily by association" level?

VHfc

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 13:05 CET - #23557

@Nicolas: QED

Nicolas Raemdonck

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 13:25 CET - #23558

Pff, Some people do not get it.

luc

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 13:28 CET - #23559

"They will have the opportunity to put you in the corner of some kind of right-wing extremist."

1) Honni soit qui mal y pense (Edward III, 1347).

2) I think that YOUR way of thinking (don't do this, or they will say that...) is a form of capitulation for THEIR way of thinking. You have already given in to political correctness, because you have permitted your own thinking and expression to be influenced by their possible reaction.

Your comment confirms the severity of the situation.

Outlaw Mike

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 13:53 CET - #23560

I do not fully grasp the logic of the layout with two columns. The one to the left seems to indicate a condition, and the one to the right a verdict. And that's Eminem, isn't it? Why is he labeled a racist? I thought he was a complete multiculti nutbag like Tom Barman?

luc

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 13:58 CET - #23561

The two columns represent two phases in the design by DOF. His current design is the second column, but I thought the concept would be more clear by showing both designs.

Nicolas Raemdonck

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 14:02 CET - #23562

My way of thinking is just common sense. If you like to be ridiculized because of childlish drawings, be my guests. And my comment confirms nothing except thet fact that I (and not CGKR or any one else) find this childish and contra-productive and only funny for people who believe the same thing.

Let me explain: what will help us more to show people in which mess we are. By drawing cartoons like this? May be you will refer to the shock effect of the idea that a drawing says more than a thousands words, well this drawing doesn't. The people who read every day the Standaard and watch VRT will smile and turn the page and say 'those silly nutcracks'. (off course you will all say, yes of course that is the truth, but why try to convince people who are already convinced?) No Luc, when you write an article like you do, that says much more (or a funnier cartoon that this childlish thing)

Flex Flint

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 14:04 CET - #23563

Anybody seen Hans-Martin Tillack's documents somewhere? Nicolas?

http://www.ifj-europe.org/d...

Because " .. in Burma, journalists get treated much worse." [copyright Belgian police]

dof

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 14:14 CET - #23564

@Nicolas, others

Thanks for the inspiration and feedback, check out

http://dof.skynetblogs.be/?...

Nicolas Raemdonck

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 14:16 CET - #23565

Well, Dof. Congratulations, it is more childlish then ever.

dof

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 14:33 CET - #23566

@Nicolas

It's strange that someone who claims not to believe in the power of ridicule should engage in it so much.

Nicolas Raemdonck

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 15:34 CET - #23567

Toch�, but I will not post any posts on this topic before it ends in to ordinary namecalling. (no, you are ridiculous... no you, no you ..........)

Rudi

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 15:36 CET - #23568

@Dof & Luc,
Txs for the link to Eurabia book. Really worth recommending. Many MEP's will have bad holidays after they plan to read it during the summer...

And DOF, I hope your drawing hits the written press also. I have sent the 2 links around the world.

Good job!

Outlaw Mike

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 15:43 CET - #23569

Nicolas is someone who, I presume, has learned or read about the harrassment of Paul Belien, the attempt to outlaw the VB and, currently, the attempt to dry up its finances (verdict right AFTER the October 8 elections, what a koinsidens!!!). I suppose he also knows of deleting the link to a Fjordman article on KifKif. I suppose he knows that Jozef De Witte deliberately decided NOT to take steps against the Anne Frank cartoons on the AEL website. And if he's not completely ignorant, he must know that over the past few years, several "rightwing" columnists in Belgian newspapers have been fired or sidelined. Yet he sees nothing wrong. In psychology, this phenomenon is called "cognitive dissonance".

Nicolas Raemdonck

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 16:14 CET - #23570

Look people. It is not the problem that I do not see and I am very worried about these mindtricks, but it is the way to react on it. I am not opposed at the first place to dof drawing because other will use it against you, but because I find the drawing ridiculous. When Hoegin writes a post like http://hoegin.blogspot.com/... then I do not find it ridiculous or childlish but the truth (and a very serious article) and a way to show people that even offending opinions must be allowed in a democratic society.

So, what do have to call the responses I have seen already of my fellow posters: pure ignorance (instead of cognitive dissonance) or not accepting the fact that there are other much more effective ways to express your worries.

(Or we agree about the ends but not on the ways how to achieve it.)

Do you now get it.

J�e

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 17:33 CET - #23575

I hope that foreign readers don't think that this is representative for our "sense of humour". In my case: a big NOT.
Fully agree with Nicolas.

Outlaw Mike

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 19:27 CET - #23581

OK, I get it. It's just a question of les gouts et les couleurs on ne discute pas.

Cogito

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 19:36 CET - #23582

Is it not clear enough then that the left column contains FALSE ACCUSATIONS like typically formulated by the left? And that the right column contains a typical politically correct action on this false accusations. Being declared guilty by association clearly fills many above here with fear?
By the way, I found the new category added by dof, 'suspect', quite funny :-)

luc

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 20:18 CET - #23588

@Cogito: "false accusations"? Why would "conservative" be a false accusation?

dof

Sunday 23 July 2006 @ 21:13 CET - #23591

I guess you see why I went with the 2nd one, it's less confusing.

Flex Flint

Monday 24 July 2006 @ 05:56 CET - #23614

Please lighten up, even the Lebanese still find humour in their situation ... as long as they're allowed to: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Human kind is in a dire strait when discussions about the limits of what can be found funny are deemed more important than constructive arguments about actual facts.

@Nicolas: please don't feel as if we're after you, but the video is a really good illustration about how graphics can *sometimes* convey things better than words. In this case, people were indeed offended, and (mis-)used their power to take it of the air.

Peter Fleming

Monday 24 July 2006 @ 09:31 CET - #23616

Isn't it time to add a few levels, because we have already gone through all the other things?

Cogito

Tuesday 25 July 2006 @ 11:48 CET - #23690

@Luc: a leftie will pronounce the word `conservative` in such a way that nobody will doubt that it is meant as an accusation, which, since it should not be an accusation, is false as an accusation :-)

Nicolas Raemdonck

Wednesday 26 July 2006 @ 00:49 CET - #23745

Dear Felix, in case you do not understand my point. I have nothing against the power of drawings, however this drawing (the one above) is a childlish one. The fact that people are allowed to make fun of their leaders and others is may be a basic right, but I find this drawing of DOF childlish and not funny.

Nicolas Raemdonck

Wednesday 26 July 2006 @ 00:55 CET - #23746

But this does not mean, I can't appreciate other (more funny) posts of DOF.

dof

Wednesday 26 July 2006 @ 14:36 CET - #23782

Maybe these are to blame:

http://www.geekandproud.net...

J�e

Thursday 27 July 2006 @ 20:11 CET - #23858

whatever whatever, i can only conclude that we are now fully convinced that dof is witty. not. but he's not a real dog neither, so that explains a lot.

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