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Ingezonden door LVB op 2006-07-23 00:19
In the US you have the Department of Homeland Security, issuing official threat level advisories.
In European countries we have Ministries of Truth, issuing status reports about their progress in achieving total thought control through censorship.
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Reacties
Jöe
donderdag, 27 juli, 2006 - 20:11whatever whatever, i can only conclude that we are now fully convinced that dof is witty. not. but he's not a real dog neither, so that explains a lot.
dof
woensdag, 26 juli, 2006 - 14:36Maybe these are to blame:
http://www.geekandproud.net...
Nicolas Raemdonck
woensdag, 26 juli, 2006 - 00:55But this does not mean, I can't appreciate other (more funny) posts of DOF.
Nicolas Raemdonck
woensdag, 26 juli, 2006 - 00:49Dear Felix, in case you do not understand my point. I have nothing against the power of drawings, however this drawing (the one above) is a childlish one. The fact that people are allowed to make fun of their leaders and others is may be a basic right, but I find this drawing of DOF childlish and not funny.
Cogito
dinsdag, 25 juli, 2006 - 11:48@Luc: a leftie will pronounce the word `conservative` in such a way that nobody will doubt that it is meant as an accusation, which, since it should not be an accusation, is false as an accusation :-)
Peter Fleming
maandag, 24 juli, 2006 - 09:31Isn't it time to add a few levels, because we have already gone through all the other things?
Flex Flint
maandag, 24 juli, 2006 - 05:56Please lighten up, even the Lebanese still find humour in their situation ... as long as they're allowed to: https://www.youtube.com/watc...
Human kind is in a dire strait when discussions about the limits of what can be found funny are deemed more important than constructive arguments about actual facts.
@Nicolas: please don't feel as if we're after you, but the video is a really good illustration about how graphics can *sometimes* convey things better than words. In this case, people were indeed offended, and (mis-)used their power to take it of the air.
dof
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 21:13I guess you see why I went with the 2nd one, it's less confusing.
LVB
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 20:18@Cogito: "false accusations"? Why would "conservative" be a false accusation?
Cogito
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 19:36Is it not clear enough then that the left column contains FALSE ACCUSATIONS like typically formulated by the left? And that the right column contains a typical politically correct action on this false accusations. Being declared guilty by association clearly fills many above here with fear?
By the way, I found the new category added by dof, 'suspect', quite funny :-)
Outlaw Mike
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 19:27OK, I get it. It's just a question of les gouts et les couleurs on ne discute pas.
Jöe
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 17:33I hope that foreign readers don't think that this is representative for our "sense of humour". In my case: a big NOT.
Fully agree with Nicolas.
Nicolas Raemdonck
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 16:14Look people. It is not the problem that I do not see and I am very worried about these mindtricks, but it is the way to react on it. I am not opposed at the first place to dof drawing because other will use it against you, but because I find the drawing ridiculous. When Hoegin writes a post like http://hoegin.blogspot.com/... then I do not find it ridiculous or childlish but the truth (and a very serious article) and a way to show people that even offending opinions must be allowed in a democratic society.
So, what do have to call the responses I have seen already of my fellow posters: pure ignorance (instead of cognitive dissonance) or not accepting the fact that there are other much more effective ways to express your worries.
(Or we agree about the ends but not on the ways how to achieve it.)
Do you now get it.
Outlaw Mike
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 15:43Nicolas is someone who, I presume, has learned or read about the harrassment of Paul Belien, the attempt to outlaw the VB and, currently, the attempt to dry up its finances (verdict right AFTER the October 8 elections, what a koinsidens!!!). I suppose he also knows of deleting the link to a Fjordman article on KifKif. I suppose he knows that Jozef De Witte deliberately decided NOT to take steps against the Anne Frank cartoons on the AEL website. And if he's not completely ignorant, he must know that over the past few years, several "rightwing" columnists in Belgian newspapers have been fired or sidelined. Yet he sees nothing wrong. In psychology, this phenomenon is called "cognitive dissonance".
Rudi
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 15:36@Dof & Luc,
Txs for the link to Eurabia book. Really worth recommending. Many MEP's will have bad holidays after they plan to read it during the summer...
And DOF, I hope your drawing hits the written press also. I have sent the 2 links around the world.
Good job!
Nicolas Raemdonck
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 15:34Toché, but I will not post any posts on this topic before it ends in to ordinary namecalling. (no, you are ridiculous... no you, no you ..........)
dof
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 14:33@Nicolas
It's strange that someone who claims not to believe in the power of ridicule should engage in it so much.
Nicolas Raemdonck
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 14:16Well, Dof. Congratulations, it is more childlish then ever.
dof
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 14:14@Nicolas, others
Thanks for the inspiration and feedback, check out
http://dof.skynetblogs.be/?...
Flex Flint
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 14:04Anybody seen Hans-Martin Tillack's documents somewhere? Nicolas?
http://www.ifj-europe.org/d...
Because " .. in Burma, journalists get treated much worse." [copyright Belgian police]
Nicolas Raemdonck
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 14:02My way of thinking is just common sense. If you like to be ridiculized because of childlish drawings, be my guests. And my comment confirms nothing except thet fact that I (and not CGKR or any one else) find this childish and contra-productive and only funny for people who believe the same thing.
Let me explain: what will help us more to show people in which mess we are. By drawing cartoons like this? May be you will refer to the shock effect of the idea that a drawing says more than a thousands words, well this drawing doesn't. The people who read every day the Standaard and watch VRT will smile and turn the page and say 'those silly nutcracks'. (off course you will all say, yes of course that is the truth, but why try to convince people who are already convinced?) No Luc, when you write an article like you do, that says much more (or a funnier cartoon that this childlish thing)
LVB
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 13:58The two columns represent two phases in the design by DOF. His current design is the second column, but I thought the concept would be more clear by showing both designs.
Outlaw Mike
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 13:53I do not fully grasp the logic of the layout with two columns. The one to the left seems to indicate a condition, and the one to the right a verdict. And that's Eminem, isn't it? Why is he labeled a racist? I thought he was a complete multiculti nutbag like Tom Barman?
LVB
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 13:28"They will have the opportunity to put you in the corner of some kind of right-wing extremist."
1) Honni soit qui mal y pense (Edward III, 1347).
2) I think that YOUR way of thinking (don't do this, or they will say that...) is a form of capitulation for THEIR way of thinking. You have already given in to political correctness, because you have permitted your own thinking and expression to be influenced by their possible reaction.
Your comment confirms the severity of the situation.
Nicolas Raemdonck
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 13:25Pff, Some people do not get it.
VHfc
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 13:05@Nicolas: QED
dof
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 12:56"the opportunity to put you in the cornor of some kind of right-wing extremist."
So what are you saying?
That I should add an extra "Guily by association" level?
Nicolas Raemdonck
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 12:34Dear Luc, I have the same concern about the fact that opinions (that are not my own) are being forbidden but this way of showing this concern with childlish drawings is ridiculous. It makes your self a laughing stock with those who want to abolish free speech. The will have the opportunity to put you in the cornor of some kind of right-wing extremist.
LVB
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 12:31Here are the best Amazon links to Bat Ye'ors "Eurabia":
If you live in Europe, order at Amazon UK, so you won't have to pay import duties or fill in complex customs forms:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exe...
Elsewhere, order at Amazon USA:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/...
dof
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 12:24@Rudi:
By the time you have arrived at an amazon page, your url will contain all kinds of crap you have to prune manually.
So use
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pr...
Rudi
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 11:53Great en unfortunately very real!
Cogito
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 10:09Continuing the row of false accusations you could add a line at the left calling the Palestinians "freedom fighters".
Cogito
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 10:07re-reading I think it fits in the row however of false accusations.
Cogito
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 10:06I think there is a bad translation in this: Our word for Nationalism must be translated by Patriotism in English. The term Nationalism truly means fascism to english speaking people.
LVB
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 01:14@Nicolas: I guess you will only start worrying when opinions YOU care about are banned by the state?
I started worrying as soon as ANY opinion was banned by the state.
dof
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 00:53Why, that hurts.
Nicolas Raemdonck
zondag, 23 juli, 2006 - 00:31Jeezes, this is ridiculous